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 Post subject: What's happening and brake pad question.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:47 am 
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I see it has been almost 3 months since anyone posted.
I will imagine that everyone is hibernating!!!
Or are using the Facebook VoyagerXII page.

Here in Nova Scotia we have had a less than agreeable Winter. not much snow on ground, but the temperatures are fluctuating from deep freeze to almost balmy. Snow to sleet to rain, and roads are icy half the time so lots of salt on road.
As a break , because riding season is still at least 1.5 months away, there is a motorcycle show this coming weekend, I think I will go see what new products are out there, but not buying.

Now back to Voyager XIIs. Brake question.
What is the recommended pads everyone uses and what are your observations
Organic? Kevlar? Semi-sintered? Sintered? Double sintered?
Also do you tow a trailer and what pad would you recommend for trailer towing.

I am planning a cross Canada trip this Summer with my son, and will be towing a small tag along, total trailer and content weighing less than 250 lbs.

Appreciate all feedback and experiences

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 Post subject: Re: What's happening and brake pad question.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:02 am 
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I have been running organic pads on front and tried Kevlar on rear, but riding alone and not towing trailer.
I did this to save wear on new rotors.
Am willing to go to more aggressive pads for trip for safety purposes

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 Post subject: Re: What's happening and brake pad question.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:21 pm 
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I use sintered pads. I like the extra stopping power. Especially when pulling a trailer. I haven't tried anything else except the organic and I definitely didn't like those.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:41 am 
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I agree Bill, I am less than satisfied with the organics

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I believe both my front and rear are semi semi-sintered but they are due to be replaced this spring and I will probably go with a sintered pad this time. The current ones are great for me riding alone but if its the wife and I and we are loaded for a trip I feel there is some room for improvement. I have some research and reading to do before I know for sure which type I will go with though.

I am on the same page as you guys with the organic pads as I am definitely not a fan. I could see them being a good candidate on a small bike like a Yamaha V Star 250 or something similar.


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Here in the states we have access to a large array of used bike parts for our bikes. So I'm not terribly concerned with rotor wear. I can understand being in Canada though with a lot fewer used bike parts with shipping and associated costs for anything here in the states.
Even if we were willing to give it and to ship it for free it would still probably cost something.

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No no Count, don't worry about the "something" costs........send all the free parts with free shipping to Ken and myself up here in Nova Scotia. Once they arrive Ken and I can sort out who gets what. LOL.
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Sure thing Dave. LOL. Good one.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:15 pm 
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Anytime Dave, I will even build a shed for parts if required.

Changing the clutch spring to Barnett springs this week. Will be interesting to see the difference.

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Please let us know about that clutch spring replacement. I think my bike could use a new set as well but I'm concerned about it making the clutch lever much tougher to squeeze. An injury from years ago makes my left hand not as strong as it once was.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:46 pm 
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Right now my clutch is 15 lbs pull, will replace all 6 and test the pull. Worse case scenario is replace 4 instead of 6.

Will keep you advised

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I'm also curious of how you are measuring the pull. It's probably easier than I am imagining.

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I've never pulled a trailer and normally ride alone and all I've ever used for brake pads are the organics. They do fine by me.

It's warming up finally and now mud is my enemy. I only have to navigate a 1/2 mile of gravel road to get to black top, but I wouldn't try it yet. It's always a disaster when the frost goes.

I finally got the '89 put back together. I did all the normal stuff aside from an air filter as I failed to order one ahead of time. Got a couple coming. The new shocks came in for the '97, but I'm not real worried about that yet. Rainy day job. The highlight of re-assembly on the '89 was that the radio worked! I know it's only temporary and the first bump will change everything, but it worked yesterday.

This will be the 7th year I've had the '89. The ONLY reason I bought it to begin with was because it was cheap. I wish everything I bought would perform like this does, minus the cost of tires of course. I'm the only one in my immediate group that rides a 30 year old motorcycle. Still on the same battery I bought it with too. I didn't remove it or put a tender on it all winter, but did remove the radio. It's just been a good motorcycle.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:02 am 
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Glad you like your 89, keep taking care of it and it will take care of you.
Mine is a 2001, and battery was installed in 2007. Still strong but going to a new one for my trip across Canada.

Bill, I used a luggage scale, strap over and under the grip to the lever, pulled until lever depressed, held and looked at weight.
Strap rubbing on grip probably adding resistance and add to weight, but it will do the same amount with new springs so I should technically be able get the difference in pull.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:03 pm 
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Ken in NS wrote:
Bill, I used a luggage scale, strap over and under the grip to the lever, pulled until lever depressed, held and looked at weight.
Strap rubbing on grip probably adding resistance and add to weight, but it will do the same amount with new springs so I should technically be able get the difference in pull.


Update,
Clutch pressure went from 15 lbs to 20, and after a couple rides I don't even notice it.
The star shaped springs were not broken, the friction were well within tolerance.
What a difference in the engagement, now I feel confident in giving it power as I release the clutch anbd no slipping. Should be good for towing my trailer.

Went with semi-sintered brake pads up front, what a difference, will change out rear when I swap out tire.

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